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chris elliot
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Posted - 2013.06.21 16:46:00 -
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Seems James is the only one over there with his head not inside his anus, while chitsa has joined ytterbium in a rectal tea party of sorts.
This does not bode well for anything other than complete fail should the tea party grow larger. |
chris elliot
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Posted - 2013.06.21 23:01:00 -
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Nathan Jameson wrote:chris elliot wrote:Seems James is the only one over there with his head not inside his anus, while chitsa has joined ytterbium in a rectal tea party of sorts.
This does not bode well for anything other than complete fail should the tea party grow larger. Zed! You're back!
I'm sure zed would be insulted.
But in all seriousness, asking people how they want to nerf T3's without telling them how HAC's will be redone is beyond asinine and borders on levels of incompetence only seen when examining real life governments.... or when examining the inner workings of ytterbiums head.
Of course the cloaky t3 subsystems are going to be OP you insipid morons. The recon ships that can cloak are terrible for anything other than.... well, actually they are just terrible. They lack slot layouts, CPU, powergrid ect ect.
And of course they are going to dominate the small and large scale metas. Its either shell out tons of isk and hope you do not die or fly a hac. And lets be honest, all of the hacs are so monumentally terrible that the shift to tons and tons of t3's is like wondering why everyone picks the Klondike bar over the sh*t sandwich.
Lets examine shall we,
Loki: Only minmatar ship that can armor tank worth a damn that is not a battleship. Add in a web bonus and of course people are going to fly it out the nose.
Proteus: Well the diemos is absolutely terrible beyond reason. And the ishtar is so bad that even the old navy vexor was better at its job in an armor configuration than it was. Add in how useless and terrible the bonus's on the old and new brutix are and you are only left with the new navy brutix, and the astarte as decent stuff to fly.
Legion: A sacralige that does not suck, a zealot that can actually survive being hit, and a mini bhaalgorn at not bhaalgorn prices. Yes please!
Tengu: Well its either tengu or drake really because the cerberus and eagle might as well be noobships when compared to even the drake... never mind comparing them to the tengu.
Hell, even the new navy cruisers can pop a squat on the current HAC's that's how bad they are.
Now if the CSM was told, hey here is what we are planning to do with HAC's, how do you think we can rework t3's around this so they are both viable options. And chitsa said, yeah that could work but t3's would still be too strong, and James replyed that more flushing out would be needed before he would comment further. Then I would stand and applaud you for taking the time and initiative to do it right.
This whole backasswards way they are going about it and one of our two CSM's falling for it like a sucker is just full on stupid.
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chris elliot
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:11:00 -
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Or it will force you to break your blobs into smaller units, since if you bring a blob of straight dps through I can sit back and alpha you back to highsec.
The reason nullsec is seeing so many shifts is twofold.
One is the power of the microjump drive on battleships. Since only a scram will prevent a warpout you either have to grab everybody at once or be forced to play ping pong games trying to grab one ship at a time while being shelled from range the entire time.
Second is the tierecide has buffed neut ranges on the geddons , ewar on the celestis which allows you to play two different types of alpha that will wreck a t3 fleet. The first is alpha cap/ewar. Enough range boosted geddons will zap the cap on anything nearby. And the celestises will ensure that unless your logistics stays in the danger zone they will never be able to lock further than the paint on their hulls. The second is a combination of the tracking bonus to the mega and the sentry bonus to the domis. The latter which allows for perfect alpha, since once the drones are assigned they follow the will of the FC at the speed of the FC, not individual knuckleheads trying to find targets on their poorly set up overviews. As for the tracking on the mega, since it is now prohibitively dangerous to stay in close with the exception of suicide goku fleets or doom portals, the buff to the tracking of the longest ranged weapon in the game makes it an obvious choice. There is still a very rock paper scissors meta here, until you start doing silly things with cap swarms and supers.
The availability of cynos and variable points of entry makes this work in nullsec so it seems all well and good. In wormholes however we only have the wormhole. Which makes every fight boring, since either you have to jump into me or me into you. Bringing all ranges to zero and concentrating everything into this little bitty sphere, where the do it all nature of the t3 makes it absurdly overpowered. Most of this is due to the nature of the terribleness of command ships and hacs in their current configurations, and the squishyness and inflexibility of recons. SInce the dangers to t3 fleets are removed by way of the limited mass of the wormhole they become overpowered because the only things that can beat them can't be used. Rendering them the one and only option out there. And that is both OP and boring at the same time.
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chris elliot
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Posted - 2013.07.15 03:51:00 -
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Rengas wrote:Rroff wrote:Messoroz wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Shield blobs? Try shield fitting proteuses. I would tell you the results but I want some free killmails first. Before they nerfed TEs you could do a wanabbe shield adrestia fit on a prot, with the pointless nerf to TEs you can't hold the range needed and get the dps at that range needed to make it at all worthwhile tho. After the rail buff, shield kiting prots are going to be IWIN buttons.
I'm looking forward to it actually. |
chris elliot
EG CORP
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Posted - 2013.07.15 07:14:00 -
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Kira Hhallas wrote:Okay ..... thats a good point....
But then, no local for NullSec Pilots.
This will also end the tiresome afk cloaky discussion.
If EVE Online is to hard ......., you are too weak..... :-P
Wrong forum genius. The nullbears crying about campers is in C&P. This is the forum where we gripe about people flying the same OP bullsht all the time. |
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